Title: A RARE AUDIENCE
WITH KING JACK
Date: 12/1/1995; Publication:
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
12-01-1995
IT IS the late afternoon of a cloudy day in America's poshest
city, and I am sitting in the presidential suite of the Beverly Wilshire Hotel
waiting for my audience with Jack Nicholson, the supreme movie star of the
postwar generation.
I have hotly pursued this interview, and never really expected to get it.
Nicholson rarely meets the press these days (only a handful of interviews in
the '90s), and he rigorously screens the names of the select few who gain
access to him. To promote the opening of his new film, "The Crossing
Guard," he consented to only three interviews.
And now that my moment is near, I am wondering what I have gotten myself into.
For much of a week, I have been reading up on the star and talking to people
who know him, and the picture that emerges is of a man isolated by wealth and
fame, numbed by years of drug-taking, and increasingly hostile to journalists.
One of the last reporters to interview him wrote of "his penchant for
evading direct answers by launching into rambling, discursive, almost bullying
narratives."
But just as I am seriously considering a retreat, a publicist enters the room
and motions me to follow her down the suite's long hallway and into a
wood-paneled den where a man is eating a late lunch. The man rises, offers his
hand and says, "Hi, I'm Jack Nicholson," as if there could be any
doubt that those arched eyebrows, squinty eyes, wild thinning hair and killer
smile could belong to anyone else.
My first surprise is that Nicholson is not (many rumors to the contrary)
especially short - maybe 2 or 3 inches under 6 feet. The second is that he
could not be more hospitable or pleasant or chatty.
I ask the obvious question: Why is he doing this interview? And the eyes narrow
and the smile widens with irony, until all his upper
teeth show, and he says: "I want to sell this picture."
He means "The Crossing Guard," in which he plays a man unable to get
over the death of his young daughter at the hands of a drunken driver. "I
think Sean (Penn, the director) did a hell of a job with it, and it's the kind
of small character film that gets lost in today's movie market. It needs
whatever help I can give it."
He goes on for a while about the merits of the film, and it is like a scene
from a Jack Nicholson movie. He seems almost to be playing the character,
peppering his conversation with a little "heh-heh-heh"
staccato laugh, arching the devil eyebrows to emphasize points, occasionally
breaking into that extraordinary, irresistible Nicholson smile. And he has that
lazy, vaguely stoned but amazingly precise manner of speaking that is such a
treat to the ear.
"I originally came out here (to
A natural ham and more traditionally handsome as an 18-year-old than he would
turn out to be as an older man, Nicholson was urged by friends to try acting.
He studied with acting coach Jeff Corey, got his feet wet with a few minor TV
parts ("Matinee Theater," "Divorce Court"), and within a
few years was starring in his first picture, a 1958 Roger Corman
B-movie called "The Cry Baby Killer." "You don't want to see
it," he says.
He spent most of the '60s working as an actor in low-budget quickies - teen
problem movies, horror movies, biker movies, hippie movies, war movies,
Westerns. As the decade went by, however, he became less enchanted with acting
and more interested in writing and directing - contributing the scripts to Corman's "The Trip," Monte Hellman's
cult Western "Ride in the Whirlwind" and the Monkees'
"Head."
He had all but given up on acting when Rip Torn fell out of an inauspicious
biker movie called "Easy Rider," and he became the last-minute
replacement. That movie, of course, went through the roof, his performance as a
drop-out lawyer made him famous (and won him his first of 10 Oscar nominations),
and his life would never be the same.
"I woke up one morning - literally one morning - and discovered I was a
movie star," he says.
Few stars in all of movie history would have the run of excellence that
Nicholson had following up "Easy Rider" in the '70s: "Five Easy
Pieces," "The King of Marvin Gardens," "One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest" (his best-actor Oscar), "
Film historians of the '90s routinely refer to those years as the "Five
Easy Pieces Era," and Nicholson agrees that it was a golden age of
American cinema.
"It was the aftermath of the '60s, and studios and audiences - and critics
- were more adventurous then, willing to accept risks. You'd have a hard time
making any of those films today."
In the '80s, Nicholson adjusted well to the changing times. He retained his
position as a major box-office star (and the first to get a $10 million per
picture salary), he earned Oscar nominations for
"Reds," "Prizzi's Honor" and
"Ironweed," and he won a supporting actor award for 1983's
"Terms of Endearment." He also made himself a fortune by shrewdly
insisting on a piece of the gross and merchandising profits before he would
agree to play the Joker in 1989's "Batman."
So far, the '90s have been more of a mixed blessing. There was another Oscar
nomination for "A Few Good Men," but he was disappointed at the
reception of "Hoffa," which he regards as one of his best
performances, and stung by the continuing critical charges that his
performances have been increasingly in the way of self-parody.
"The problem with critics is that they can't decide how they feel about
me. When `The Shining' came out (in 1980), they hated it; now they say it was
one of my best roles."
And there is the endless frustration of moviemaking.
"No matter who you are or what you've done, it
just never gets any easier," he says. "The process is a killer - at
least if you're trying to make anything worthwhile. Bob Rafelson
and I have been trying for months to get going on "Blood and Wine,"
and we still can't quite make the deal. That's why movies are so bad - it's
nine months making the deal and nine weeks making the movie."
Nicholson is so frustrated with all this that he claims he is seriously
considering pulling up stakes and moving to
"I think I could make good movies in
It is his intense interest in all things French that led to the project that
has been perhaps his greatest frustration of all: "The Murder of
Napoleon." He bought the rights to the 1982 book, which deduces that
Napoleon was poisoned (by arsenic) while in exile on
"It's two stories, really," he says. "The
story of Napoleon in the final years of his life, and the story of how -
centuries later - a group of historians and scientists use high technology to
figure out what happened to him. It's an incredible project. But I have
never been able to get the backing for it. . . .
"I've read practically every book ever written on Napoleon. I can't tell
you how much I would like to make a movie about him - and how maddening it is
not to be able to."
By the time the Miramax publicist comes to get me, a full hour has passed.
Nicholson - still talking about Napoleon - doesn't want me to go. He keeps at
it, even as the publicist starts giving me little embarrassed signals to get
up, and then finally enters the room and practically pulls me from my chair and
out the door.
As a parting shot, I can't resist telling Nicholson that - in preparation for
this interview - I spoke to Richard Rush, who directed him in three of his best
early films. Rush told the story of seeing Nicholson the day after "Easy
Rider" opened.
Nicholson, dazed by the unexpected success, said to him: "What am I going
to do, Dick? Here I was happily on my way to becoming a writer and director,
and this thing has just happened - this accident, really. Should I become a big
movie star, or walk away now?"
I tell him this story, and he pauses and gives me another big Nicholson smile -
but one that is a little emptier than before.
"That's the moment, all right. That's my Rosebud. I could have gone either
way at that point. And the day hardly goes by in which I don't think that, hey,
maybe I took the wrong path."
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